Really! You've taught me something about English then. I was going by analogy with paper, I suppose, and was unfamiliar with Papyri. Nevertheless papyri is so uncommon that I, despite my college education (albeit in Agricuture) was unfamiliar with it. IMHO I think we'd be better off making an exception and staying with the singular form.

I also prefer bone to bones as the plural implies the bones are the finished product to me. Again MHO.

Gemstones sound fine.

I can confirm Jonno's statement on Papyri. I had always assumed it was spelled with a double i, like geeks like to pluralize things, before starting in on this discussion. I quite like it.

I also have an ever so slight preference for Bone, but I have no good reason for it. It just feels more, que digo, formal?

I for one will not make any bones about your list Jonno. Excellent work.

Papyrus is from Latin, paper is not...
Papyri does sounds quite unfamiliar to me to, but not disturbingly so, and imho Papyri has a nicer, older (aka Latin), feel over it. Just an opinion though...


To me it just implies it's not a single (b)one, but then I'm better in English grammar than the English language overall. My brain is just weird


OK


Ah, you mean like virii, which by the way is properly (by bio-chemists) spelled viri, and is the science-latin plural of virus. (No plural existed in ancient Latin, as viruses wasn't known as anything more than "case of illness")

So the current poll is "Papyri" +2, "Papyrus" +1


As "bone" to me is plainly singular, and it would be the ONLY plainly singular if we kept it (all other singular forms is non-enumerables as well), I just can't stand it... That's my personal opinion though, and if most of you prefer Bone, I'll keep it.

Current poll is "Bones" +1, "Bone" +1, Undesided +1


Thanks

Hello Jonno. If you feel strongly about bones, then by all means go with bones. You are the card master after all. It's not a major issue for me but you asked for input. I suppose what I am trying to say is that when one has an item made of bone one usually says it's made of bone, not bones, even if it was made of more than one bone.
I hope that makes sense.
You've convinced me regarding papyri.
Thanks

Sorry to be the antagonist on this one, but my votes go for "bone" and "papyrus" (for the same reason as "fish" and "fruit"). My votes also go for "fur", "hide", etc. as per my first post. Perhaps Jonno should have a double-vote in case of ties, though? (If you want to make this democratic at all, that is.)

No, his rule was "If it is a more or less finished product and is enumerable use the plural". It seems you didn't take in the latter condition in your analysis. And "wine" in the implied CivProject meaning is not enumerable (see below). That's what I tried to point out in the original post, but seeing as I'm not a native speaker/writer, I probably didn't articulate it well enough. If you read my post again with this in mind, perhaps it will make more sense?

You're arguing, however, that "wine" is enumerable, but then you're talking about a different meaning of wine. So, I guess "wine" can be interpreted in two ways - one that's enumerable and one that's not. In CivProject, I think it's obvious that we mean "wine as a resource" (non-enumerable) and not "one kind of wine" (enumerable) when we print "wine" on the trade card. Agree?

And anyways, as has been pointed out, it's not important as we all agree on the card text. I just wanted to clarify what I meant.

Well, "fish" and "fruit" are actually used as non-enumerables IRL, which (to my knowledge) neither "fur" nor "hide" are. (Or rather, fur can be a non-enumerable, but then you refer to just the fury hair, not the hide part that keeps it together as separate items.)

Yes, my intention was to go democratic, with me breaking any ties. Which is why I actually try to convince all of you that I'm right....
Of course Velusion might always overrule any decisions I make, as my new template won't go official without his approval.

Current poll:
Hides +3, Hide +1
Bones +1, Bone +2
Papyri +3, Papyrus +1, Papyruses +0
Furs +3, Fur +1
Spice +2, Spices +0
Gemstones +2, Gems +0
Pearls +3, Pearl +1