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| 2008-03-15 19:23:13 |
Shouldn't it be "Civilization Advancements" ?
I have another thing to discuss (as we have nothing else to do)
How about renaming "Law" to "Code of Law" or "Code of Laws"
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Flo de Haan
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| 2008-03-15 20:05:32 |
Flo de Haan wrote: Shouldn't it be "Civilization Advancements" ? I've been thinking that too... I've actually started a revision to that effect several times, but never completed it, due to it starting to become complicated when one gets to "Civilization Advancement Cards"... Flo de Haan wrote: I have another thing to discuss (as we have nothing else to do)
How about renaming "Law" to "Code of Law" or "Code of Laws"
"Code of Laws" sounds fine to me, any protests?
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Jonno
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| 2008-03-15 20:13:55 |
Jonno wrote: Flo de Haan wrote: Shouldn't it be "Civilization Advancements" ? I've been thinking that too... I've actually started a revision to that effect several times, but never completed it, due to it starting to become complicated when one gets to "Civilization Advancement Cards"... Flo de Haan wrote: I have another thing to discuss (as we have nothing else to do)
How about renaming "Law" to "Code of Law" or "Code of Laws" "Code of Laws" sounds fine to me, any protests?
Well,
I think it should be:
"A Civilization Advancement"
and
"A Civilization Advancement-card"
I'm not THAT good in English to really say what's true.
for Law:
Wikipedia says:
Law is a system of rules usually enforced through a set of institutions.
it's NOT talking about 'code of laws', but it just sounds weird to me.
Never thought of it, untill I started doubting.
to be more specific:
The history of law is closely connected to the development of civilizations. Ancient Egyptian law, dating as far back as 3000 BCE, had a civil code that was probably broken into twelve books. It was based on the concept of Ma'at, characterised by tradition, rhetorical speech, social equality and impartiality.[64] Around 1760 BCE under King Hammurabi, ancient Babylonian law was codified and put in stone for the public to see in the marketplace; this became known as the Codex Hammurabi. However like Egyptian law, which is pieced together by historians from records of litigation, few sources remain and much has been lost over time. The influence of these earlier laws on later civilisations was small.[65] The Old Testament is probably the oldest body of law still relevant for modern legal systems, dating back to 1280 BCE. It takes the form of moral imperatives, as recommendations for a good society. Ancient Athens, the small Greek city-state, was the first society based on broad inclusion of the citizenry, excluding women and the slave class from about 8th century BCE. Athens had no legal science, and Ancient Greek has no word for "law" as an abstract concept.[66] Yet Ancient Greek law contained major constitutional innovations in the development of democracy.[67]
Roman law was heavily influenced by Greek teachings.[68] It forms the bridge to the modern legal world, over the centuries between the rise and decline of the Roman Empire.[69] Roman law underwent major codification in the Corpus Juris Civilis of Emperor Justinian I.
Talking 'bout both 'law' and 'code of laws'
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| 2008-03-16 4:57:23 |
Flo de Haan wrote: Well, I think it should be: "A Civilization Advancement" and "A Civilization Advancement-card"
I'm not THAT good in English to really say what's true.
"A Civilization Advancement-card" is definitely not good English, though I'm unsure what is optimal.
Regarding Law, it seams to me that "law" is just any set of rules enforced by some institution (such as state or church), as enforced by them.
"Codified law" is law that is defined by a written text everyone can know of beforehand (as opposed to earlier law that was defined by it's enforcement).
A "codex" is then the actual normative text of a set of "codified law"
So, the proper title of the card should probably be "Codified Law". Looking deeper into the issue, the only thing talking for "Code of Laws" over "Codified Law" is that it's used by that game from " the one we do not name"...
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| 2008-03-16 20:39:11 |
OK
I prefer "Law" over "Codified Law".
So let's keep "Law"
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| 2008-03-17 15:06:32 |
Again, antoher thing
Can anyone tell why it is "ROADBUILDING" and "METALWORKING" but "CLOTH MAKING"?
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| 2008-03-17 17:34:25 |
Flo de Haan wrote: Again, antoher thing
Can anyone tell why it is "ROADBUILDING" and "METALWORKING" but "CLOTH MAKING"?
Actually, the odd one is Roadbuilding (should probably be Road Building). Metalworking is a word in it's own right, with it's own history, but the same can't quite be said about roadbuilding or clothmaking. (This can, btw, easily bee seen by feeding the words to a spell checker...)
Also note that Metalworking means working with metal making something else, while Road Building and Cloth Making is about making roads and cloth respectively from something else
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| 2008-03-18 11:00:13 |
Jonno wrote: Flo de Haan wrote: Again, antoher thing
Can anyone tell why it is "ROADBUILDING" and "METALWORKING" but "CLOTH MAKING"? Actually, the odd one is Roadbuilding (should probably be Road Building). Metalworking is a word in it's own right, with it's own history, but the same can't quite be said about roadbuilding or clothmaking. (This can, btw, easily bee seen by feeding the words to a spell checker...) Also note that Metalworking means working with metal making something else, while Road Building and Cloth Making is about making roads and cloth respectively from something else
You mean it's:
To metalwork something
To Make Cloth
To Build Roads
So should it the card be named "Roadbuilding" or "Road Building"
Or should we change "Cloth Making" to "Clothmaking"
Or should nothing be changed?
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| 2008-03-18 11:18:24 |
Flo de Haan wrote: You mean it's:
To metalwork something To make cloth To build roads Yea, pretty much. Flo de Haan wrote: So should it the card be named "Roadbuilding" or "Road Building" Or should we change "Cloth Making" to "Clothmaking"
Or should nothing be changed?
Either no change or change "Roadbuilding" to "Road Building".
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| 2008-03-31 9:54:26 |
Let's keep it this way:
"Roadbuilding"
"Cloth Making"
"Metalworking"
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| 2008-03-31 17:52:09 |
If any change happens, it would be to split Roadbuilding. But, I'm all for keeping them they way they are.
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