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| 2007-10-22 6:17:00 |
ok cool
any better ideas are still welcome
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Flo de Haan
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| 2007-10-22 21:14:47 |
Ok here's a new one
PROVINCIAL EMPIRE For this image I made a combination of two images. A statue of Julius Ceasar and a coin on which he's shown. Ceasar was the first living Provincial emperor to appear on a coin. And hey, haven't you read about Ceasar and you'd still like to play Civilization. You'd better start reading soon.
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| 2007-10-28 16:04:33 |
Waiting patiently for your next card.
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| 2007-10-28 18:36:42 |
Ha
I had a comuptercrash. I really have. Lost all my artwork (except for the paper version). But I downloaded recovery software and got back everything. Took me a week.
I was also spending time on construction a better light-box (a drawing tool)
I'm drawing Deism tonight I hope.
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| 2007-10-28 22:41:43 |
And there you have it.
DEISM ART EXPANATION For the long version scroll to page 2 of this topic. For short: SUPERSTITION: Fear of god's intervention. DEISM: God does not interfere in the universe he created. God should be revered, and thanked, but never petitioned. STONEHENGE: Either the Druids or their fore-runners might have been responsible for the finishing of Stonehenge. Even if they did not actually construct these monuments, they may well have performed rituals there, and understood its astronomical meanings and uses.
As I said before, I could not imagine a better option for this image. It could also be included on "Monument" but there are other options (earlier options) for "Monument". Maybe if someone would do some more study on Deism, he'd find a better option. Please let me know. For now this is the hardest image to do. (I mean the subject of the image).
Maybe if I DO have a better option for Deism, I could always use this image for "Monument" (or even "Calendar").
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| 2007-10-29 0:09:57 |
The first dateable recorded sea battle occurred about 1210 BC: Suppiluliuma II, king of the Hittites, defeated a fleet from Cyprus, and burned their ships at sea
NAVAL WARFARE ART EXPLANATION When reading on naval warfare, I soon realized that the image should be a trireme in action. But in action means at least two ships, which would become a chaotic image and very difficult. So I decided to draw an image with at least a trireme at open sea. There's not so much wrong with the original art, but I'm only missing the sail, and I was looking for a more imposing image. So this is how I reached this one.
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| 2007-10-30 11:37:07 |
I found out that the exact meaning of "Written Record" , "Literacy" and "Sculpture" is not so far apart from eachother.
Look at the following subjects:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C4%83rt%C4%83ria_tablets LITARACY, WRITTEN RECORD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narmer_Palette SCULPTURE, WRITTEN RECORD, LITARACY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shedu SCULPTURE
Does anybody know a little more about the orignal meaning of these cards in our game. I mean.
What's the reason for Velusion / Jonno to put these cards in the game and did they mean something specific with it?
(Don't get me wrong. I don't mean these cards do not belong in the game. All 3 have been very important in history)
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| 2007-10-30 23:41:06 |
I've been reading some on the subject "Monarchy" and the symbols such as the originin of the Crown.
Good to know:
Quote: The first crown appears to have been only a band, in which the horns were set. From the idea of power contained in the "horn," even subordinate rulers seem to have worn a circlet adorned with a single horn, in token of their derived authority.
We see this symbol on various images nowadays. a modern crown (as well as the crown shown on the current card for Monarchy) is often a ring with spikes. These spikes stand for the horns. The more horns the mightier.
The hand-symbol where you put your pink and index finger up is also a sings of power and can be led from the horns.
These horn were also used to show the divineness of a god or ruler.
Does anyone know the symbol for the planet "Mercury"?
I've found some guiding images on this subject. Maybe anyone has any better option.

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| 2007-10-30 23:49:15 |
Then on Urbanism
The current card shows a beautiful image of the map of Rome where you can sea the famous Circus Maximus.
But in my opinion we should use an image of the map of the city of Ur.
The word URBANISM is led from the city of Ur. (as well as Urban, Suburb)
The city of Ur (Sumer) was (one of) the first city(s) in the world (durrent Iraq).
The first map of Ur is not so spectaculair compared to Rome, but the first map of Rome may have been a lot smaller too.
Does anyone have a better image of UR for our card?
 
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| 2007-10-31 21:44:35 |
For SCULPTURE or WRITTEN RECORD I've drawn The Narmer Palette, also known as the Great Hierakonpolis Palette.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narmer_Palette
Actually As i described above in a previous post, it could be used for any one of these. I have not decided what I'll do. But I;ve drawn the image allready, because I believe it is a must to include this pallete on one of the two.
ART EXPLANATION The Narmer Palette, also known as the Great Hierakonpolis Palette or the Palette of Narmer, is a significant Egyptian archeological find, dating from about the 31st century BC, containing some of the earliest hieroglyphic inscriptions ever found.
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| 2007-11-02 14:15:28 |
Flo de Haan wrote: For SCULPTURE or WRITTEN RECORD I've drawn The Narmer Palette, also known as the Great Hierakonpolis Palette. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narmer_Palette  Actually As i described above in a previous post, it could be used for any one of these. I have not decided what I'll do. But I;ve drawn the image allready, because I believe it is a must to include this pallete on one of the two. ART EXPLANATION The Narmer Palette, also known as the Great Hierakonpolis Palette or the Palette of Narmer, is a significant Egyptian archeological find, dating from about the 31st century BC, containing some of the earliest hieroglyphic inscriptions ever found.
I've made a descission about the sculpture/written record dillema.
I'm going to use the hierakonpolis Palette for Written Record.
1. It is not only a written record, but it's the FIRST written record. A very important archeologisc finding.
2. It's a sculpture, but I guess the meaning of sculpture in our game may be any more devellopped form of sculture, when this is the first piece of sculpture found. (i'm thinking about a little more 3d relief)
3. I believe Literacy is more the ability to read and write. When it comes to the cost of the card, more important. In this order: Symbols - Pictures (hieroglyphs) - Words. The first symbolwriting has always been in sand or cave-walls. This is not the literacy meant in our game. I'm going for the phase where people were using words instead of only symbols or pictures.
So no hieroglyps but Cuneiform script. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding:Cuneiform_script2.jpg
So the definetive:
WRITTEN RECORD ART EXPLANATION The Narmer Palette, also known as the Great Hierakonpolis Palette or the Palette of Narmer, is a significant Egyptian archeological find, dating from about the 31st century BC, containing some of the earliest hieroglyphic inscriptions ever found.
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| 2007-11-02 15:21:40 |
Some explanation about a following card. Drama and poetry.
Drama and Poetry as well as Rhetoric were all described well by Aristotle
Quote: Aristotle's Poetics (Ποιητικός, c.335 BC)[1] aims to give an account of what he calls 'poetry' (for him, the term includes the lyric, the epos, and the drama). Aristotle attempts to explain 'poetry' through 'first principles' and by discerning its different genres and component elements.
Aristotle taught that poetry could be divided into three genres: Tragedy, Comedy, and Epic verse. Poetics focuses mainly on tragedy, while a second work by Aristotle focusing on comedy has been lost. It has been speculated that the Tractatus coislinianus was an outline of his lectures on the subject, or notes from a philosopher in the Aristotelian tradition.
Poetics was not influential in its time, and was generally understood to coincide with the more famous Rhetoric. This is because in Aristotle's time, rhetoric and poetry were not as separated as they later became and were in a sense different versions of the same thing.
TRANSLATED BY I. BYWATER Our subject being Poetry, I propose to speak not only of the art in general but also of its species and their respective capacities; of the structure of plot required for a good poem; of the number and nature of the constituent parts of a poem; and likewise of any other matters in the same line of inquiry. Let us follow the natural order and begin with the primary facts. When looking at the orignal card you see two masks. The Tragedy/Comedy. Quote: Ancient Greeks turned ritual into ritual-drama and so The masks that were famously used in Ancient Greece were employed to honour, worship and depict their mythological gods. The masks were oversized and exaggerated. They were fitted about the mouth of the actor, and assisted the actors with projecting their voices over such a vast amount of space. The Greeks brought the making of theatrical masks to the height of their development, and in a way, laid the path for the making of masks within the theatrical world.
I think the masks still are the best option for this card, since poetry and Drama during the greek period were so close to each other. I'm just going to lok for a new picture. There'e nothing wrong with the original.
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| 2007-11-04 17:12:30 |
DRAMA AND POETRY ART EXPLANATION Ancient Greeks turned ritual into ritual-drama and so the masks that were famously used in Ancient Greece were employed to honour, worship and depict their mythological gods. The masks were oversized and exaggerated. They were fitted about the mouth of the actor, and assisted the actors with projecting their voices over such a vast amount of space. The Greeks brought the making of theatrical masks to the height of their development, and in a way, laid the path for the making of masks within the theatrical world.
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| 2007-11-04 17:18:17 |
LITERACY ART EXPLANATION The cuneiform script is one of the earliest known forms of written expression. Created by the Sumerians from ca. 3000 BC (with predecessors reaching into the late 4th millennium Uruk IV period[1]), cuneiform writing began as a system of pictographs. Over time, the pictorial representations became simplified and more abstract. The image is a famous tablet containing Cuneiform script. (2400 BC)
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