lol, that would be perfect

If CivProject was a parody, and not a general improved version, of Advanced Civilization, it would, seriously, be perfect. But as it is, it's still something worth a laugh.


Actually, I agree. That one would be perfect. Though that image is too wide, so you should probably only use the rightmost 5 or 6 barbarians (please, skip the flabby almost-mediaevally dressed warrior in mail).

oh yes. this will only be a guide

all advances are landscape, though it's impossible to find and draw 51 landscape images.

I'm looking to draw only portrait images for the calamities.

ICONOCLASM AND HERESY

Current image. I sacred statue is caried out of a religeous building.

Iconoclasm is the deliberate destruction within a culture of the culture's own religious icons and other symbols or monuments, usually for religious or political motives. It is a frequent component of major domestic political or religious changes. It is thus generally distinguished from the destruction by one culture of the images of another.

The word "heresy" comes from the Greek hairesis which means either a choice of beliefs or a faction of believers. It was given wide currency by Irenaeus to describe and discredit his opponents in the early Christian Church. He described his own position as orthodox and his position eventually evolved into the position of the early Christian Church.

Used in this way, the term "heresy" has no purely objective meaning: the category exists only from the point of view of speakers within a group that has previously agreed about what counts as "orthodox". Any nonconformist view within any field may be perceived as "heretical" by others within that field who are convinced that their view is "orthodox"

Famous History: After the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE, the Menorah was brought to Rome. On his return in Rome, Vespasian, Titus and their soldiers celebrated a triumph. They paraded through the streets of their capital in a beautiful procession, which culminated in the punishment of the Jewish leaders: Simon son of Giora was executed and John of Gischala was sentenced to life imprisonment. The sacred vessels, the table on which the Bread of God's Presence had been put, the Menorah, the curtain and all the other objects that nobody except the high priest was allowed to see, were carried through the Roman streets.

New Image: the menorah caried through Rome.




MINOR UPRISING

Current image: An armed soldier

Uprising is a general term used for citizens standing up against the government.
There have been hundreds of examples in history.
The current image will do, or maybe a lesser armed person shuld be sufficient.

New image: redraw current image or as above.



Tyranny

Current image: A raised fist.

In my opinion this fist would fit better to minor uprising than Tyranny.

In modern usage a tyrant is a single ruler holding vast, if not absolute power through a state or in an organization. The term carries modern connotations of a harsh and cruel ruler who places their own interests or the interests of a small oligarchy over the best interests of the general population which they govern or control. However, in the classical sense, the word simply means one who has taken power by their own mean as opposed to hereditary power (and generally without the modern connotations). This mode of rule is referred to as tyranny. Many individual rulers or government officials are accused of tyranny, with the label almost always a matter of controversy.

History:
In ancient Greece, tyrants were influential opportunists that came to power by securing the support of different factions of a deme. The word "tyrant" then carried no ethical censure; it simply referred to anyone who illegally seized executive power in a polis to engage in autocratic, though perhaps benevolent, government, or leadership in a crisis. Support for the tyrants came from the growing class of business people and from the peasants who had no land or were in debt to the wealthy land owners. It is true that they had no legal right to rule, but the people preferred them over kings or the aristocracy. The Greek tyrants stayed in power by using mercenary soldiers from outside of their respective city state.

Greek tyranny in the main grew out of the struggle of the popular classes against the aristocracy or against priest-kings where archaic traditions and mythology sanctioned hereditary and/or traditional rights to rule. Popular coups generally installed tyrants, who often became or remained popular rulers, at least in the early part of their reigns.


I've been looking for images that clearly shows the attack on the current ruler by the tyrant. Thinking of a greek dagger or so.


New Image: A hand with a dagger, ready to attack.

Banditry

Current image: A warrior on a horse

An outlaw or banditti is a person living the lifestyle of outlawry, meaning literally "outside the law". The point about social bandits is that they are peasant outlaws whom the lord and state regard as criminals, but who remain within peasant society, and are considered by their people as heroes, as champions, avengers, fighters for justice, perhaps even leaders of liberation, and in any case as men to be admired, helped and supported. This relation between the ordinary peasant and the rebel, outlaw and robber is what makes social banditry interesting and significant...........Social banditry of this kind is one of the most universal social phenomena known to history.


In our game this results in the theft of trade-goods.

New Image: A greek or Roman Outlaw.






Piracy:

Current image: Warriors coming from a ship.

Piracy is a robbery committed at sea, or sometimes on the shore, by an agent without a commission from a sovereign nation (compare with privateer below).

The earliest documented instances of piracy are the exploits of the Sea Peoples who threatened the Aegean in the 13th century BC. In Classical Antiquity, the Tyrrhenians and Thracians were known as pirates. The island of Lemnos long resisted Greek influence and remained a haven for Thracian pirates. By the 1st century BC, there were pirate states along the Anatolian coast, threatening the commerce of the Roman Empire.

New image: Redraw Current Image




Regression

Current image: a ruined temple.

Generally, regression is related to moving backwards, and the opposite of progression. In our game the term applies directly to moving backwards in development. This can be in any form of economics, advancement, or expansion. Thus in fact the collapse of a culture of civilization. In this way, the current image is sufficient.

New Image: Redraw Current image.

Ok When it comes to the size of each image. I cannot escape first paying some attention to the layou tof the cards.

What I want is to get the same image size for each calamity. This way you can leave room for the numbers and so, without having to put them IN the images.

Ever since I redraw the images, I can do this. So before I start drawing I want to be sure of the size of each image. (aspect ratio)


I've made some Example of how the cards might look. All we need to do is make a descission about how to put the E/W makers on the cards.

First have a look at this and tell me what you think.

I started drawing. I came to the conclusion that just redrawing the original image is out of the picture. These image contain just too little detail to make it look good.

I'm going to have to look for new images toshow the same.

Does anyone have a good suggestion for a religeous superstitieous omen?

I mean, A solar eclipse is going to be a dark image. A comet means the same, "the flight of birds" is too vague in my opinion.

The only thing I can think of that might work is a lightning bolt striking an idol. I thought of bad goat entrails but I don't know how you could draw that.

Yeah the problem is, to avoid a black card, we were looking for another image. A cometh, a lightning bolt. They're all dark.

In that case, An eclipse might be a better image.

OK, here goes next round of comments from me:


Civil Disorder:
Redrawing the current image is fine. Hopefully your redrawing will be sharper, becouse the current one is a bit to "blurry" for my taste.

Corruption:
I've always interpreted this calamity as what you call embezzlement and kickback (economic corruption rather than political corruption), based on the effects it has on the game. That is also why it's a broken scale (economics) rather than a broken lady justice statue (law) as image. However, if you want to interpret the term more broadly, that might be a better image.

Tribal Conflict:
Redrawing is fine.

Iconoclasm and Heresy:
In my mind, I always connect the word "Iconoclasm" with a very specific event in the old testament. I'm translating from Swedish translation of the old testament (so accuracy might not be 100%), but I'm referring to Exodus chapter 32 and the golden calf the Israelites made from their golden rings and worshipped when Moses didn't come back immediately from his meeting with God at Mount Horeb in the Sinai dessert.
Because of that mental image burned into my skull, I'm not overly fond of the idea of the menorah in Rome, but would prefer the golden calf in Sinai.
(BTW: I do not know bible chapter number by heart (even though I do know CivProject rulebook paragraph number by heart) but I do own a bible and looked it up)
Minor Uprising:
I'd also prefer a less armed soldier.

Tyranny:
I like your hand + dagger idea

Banditry:
With the reservation that I have no idea how a Greek or Roman outlaw looks like, I like the idea.

Piracy:
Redrawing is just fine

Regression:
I'd really love if the ruined temple got a 3D feel. The current image is more like a ruined façade than a ruined temple.


Layout:
1) I don't like the idea of a border on the images, but the border on your layout does show how large I think the images should be.
2) You have forgot the E/W markers on your layout, but I assume to the right of the severity/tradability would do fine (it's position mirroring the one of the stack number). One would have to reduce the font'size for it to work though...
3) I also think we should drop the brackets around minor, and I think it's more important to differentiate between non-tradable and tradable than between minor and major, so the "(major)" title should probably be replaced by "tradable".



What image are you referring to?


Superstition:
I've not been able to find another image, but perhaps one could just reverse the colours of the sky (see this simple proof-of-concept)

All images are blurry. They are some sort of blowups from very small drawings. That's the reason why i have to look for new images. They all show little details. Maybe that's also the reason why they all used to fit. They're not too explicit.



I'm thinking of a hand that feeds money to another. This card is just too 'symbolic' to find the perfect image that'll please everyone. There are so many ways to interpret this card. Thought the wage is a very symbolic way of showing corruption, where my idea is the actual thing. (though you could find many other options)



There are many stories on Iconoclasm. The one you mention is famous, and therefore maybe the one! But the menorah one is famous too. I'll come back on this. After the middle ages there was another wave of Iconoclasm.



I've come to a similar image to the current.



We agree.



What's wrong with borders. The commodities show borders too. This solves the problem of putting numbers in images. i really like the idea of borders, cause it solves these problems.



We did not have a sollution yet for this problem. I'm looking for a way NOT to put numbers and letters in images.



I don't want to put 'tradable' on a card. it's not on commodities either. It's confusing by the way too. The only reason to mention 'non-tradable' is to warn.

This way we keep the form:
1 'non-tradable' and therefore major
2 major if not mentioned
3 minor if mentioned.



I mean all images. see above







The only way to use this, is to draw an incomplete eclipse. this way the sky isn't blackened yet. guess this is the solluction.

Prior to seeing Jonno's comment, my very first thought for a new Iconoclasm story was the destruction of the golden calf. Now that I see his thoughts, I agree even more. As far as the Menorah idea goes, I also am not comfortable with the imagery. The juxtaposition of any Jewish religious symbol with flames is something we need to stay away from for a long time to come.

Well, let's keep the modern age problems away form this game. iconoclasm is wrong in origin and a problem in any age or culture.

The destruction of the calf might be the one. I have no problems with that.
Besides it's the current image anyway.

Does anyone have good guiding image for that? (another than the original card)

Hmm, source image. Excellent question...
I like the composition of this image
http://www.mentalblog.com/filedepot/golden-calf.jpg

Of course, we could always use this one:
http://www.inthebeginningcomics.com/comics/24.jpg

Ha along with Asterix and Obelix for barbarian hordes this game is starting to be fun!



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