If anyone wants to help on this subject:

Please try and look for images that show the commodities.

I was at work today, having some free time, so I've done some changes to my previous versions.

The defs are:

Clay, hides, furs, salt, wool, galls lacquer livestock, copper, lead, herbs obsidian, obsidian, tea and silk.


These are the changes I've made.

Great work flo.

Some comments:
1. Flax is still distinctly photorealistic, even if you dimmed it a bit.
However, as there is no big problem with the current flax, we can just keep that one if you don't find anything better.

2. Your new papyri is great.
2. As is your new Stone.
2. Your new (bees)wax is great, though I think a slightly more zoomed in version would be better (if the resolution of your source is good enough).

3. Your new Ceramics is great
3. Your new fish is much better than anything I've seen before, but I think it's a bit too zoomed in. Is it possible to zoom out a bit?
3. I like the last two of your fruit suggestions.
3. Your timber is still a bit to light, but the new suggestion works.

4. New cotton is great.
4. Your grain is a bit too plain, and what details there is is too photorealistic, but it's still better than the current card.
4. Your oil is still too yellow, and the texture looks more like melting butter on a vertical surface than oil in a bowl. I'm thinking using the current image and making it more yellow would be better. This is a first try:

4. You sugar feels to grey, and looking closely it's too photorealistic.

5. New textiles is great.
5. New wine looks great, perhaps a touch to dark, but nothing major.

6. New bronze is much better. Still a bit "dull", but it's the correct colour now.

7. The new incense is great.
7. As is the new jade

8. New dye is much better.



So now my lists are as follows.

Use current (unless you happens to find something great):
Bone
Flax
Iron
Tin

Use your proposal (unless you make something even better):
Clay
Hides
Furs
Papyri
Stone
Wax (but see above)
Ceramics
Salt
Timber (but see above)
Cotton
Wool (but see previous post)
Glass
Lacquer
Livestock (but see previous post)
Textiles
Wine (but see above)
Bronze (but see above)
Copper
Lead
Herbs
Incense
Jade
Dye
Obsidian
Tea
Ivory
Silk

Still needing a remake (or decision on current options):
Ochre (but current could do)
Fish
Fruit
Grain
Oil (see above for proposals)
Sugar
Silver
Resin
Spice
Gemstones
Marble
Amber (but current could do)
Gold (but your amber proposal could do)
Pearls (but current could do)

Ok, I like your oil. Can you send me the image without the numbers.

I haven't spent time on all cards, so the cards, that you don't like are still to be done. (like Iron, tin and so)

Even when all cards all ok, I'm going to change some, to make them look more distinct from others. But I'm waiting untill we're satisfied with all cards.


3. Fruit. Let's go for option 4.

2. The beeswax is not so high in resolution, and therefore max. zoomed in.
It's hard to find images with some sort of structure without being just a yellow box. I'd like to go for this one.



3. I've made some changes to the timber.

old: new:




3. The fish is maximum zoomed out for what I can find. 95% of images of fish show artifical light or the slimy look you talked aboot. I'm happy with this one.


4. The wool is I think the only unedited photgraph of a sheep. (I cannot get the light darker.) it looks fine to me.


4. I made the sugar card a bit darker to distinct it from salt. this is very hard to do. what's your option?


5. I've edited Livestock yesterday, but forgot to upload.


5. New wine option:
old: new:

6. What did you mean with dull bronze. (blurry or boring)

Regarding Livestock, it looks like you're doing a Holstein aka Friesian pattern. If I recall correctly the Holstein breed didn't emerge until the late Middle Ages as a cross between the Roman black cattle and a white local breed. It happened there in the Netherlands. Wikipedia doesn't give much detail.

BWR, you seem like someone, who knows about cows. I really don't know. (Here in the netherlands nowadays we have the black/white and brown/white, and some wild ones with horns. I really don;t know about the history.)

Would you like to go and search for a right image for livestock?

If you're looking for an ancient breed of cattle try the Braunvieh.


http://www.braunvieh.com/the-breed/

Oil: All images (with and without numbers) are available at http://jon.severinsson.net/civproject/2 ... Proposals/
Interested in which of the images you prefer, I like the middle one (Oil2) best.

Fruit: OK, number 4 it is.

Wax: If that's the best you can do with the source image, it will have to do.

Timber: I like your last option.

Fish: Well, as it still is way better than the current alternative, it'll have to do.

Wool: It'll do, but I'd like it without the light. I googled some and found this, what do you think? If you like I could whiten it a bit more (it's already whitened from the source).


Sugar: Well, there is no way salt and sugar will not look similar, but imho that is better than a ugly sugar image.

Livestock: New image looks great. Honestly, I don't care if no cows looked like that in ancient times, it's still close enough, and way better than our current image.

Wine: New wine looks great.

Bronze: Only that it's a bit dull and dim. If you look at it you see it's much brighter to the right, than to the left. I think I wanted it closer to that overall, but it's no big deal.

4. Oil. I'd go for option 3.

4. Wool. It's a bit blurry, but it's ok.

4. Sugar. I'm really keen on all goods so be easily distincted. So let's go for some other option.

5. Livestock. I do care for cards being historically right. So I'm going to cahnge that one.

I'll play around a bit and see if I can create some compromise. Option 3 looks more like rapeseed oil than olive oil...


Yea, source image was too low resolution, it's actually an upscale from 200dpi, but hey it works. Wool is kinda blurry in real life too...


OK, interested in what you'll come up with.


OK.

(found another one.)
(like this one better)
(i used the breed BWR was talking about
(all these matal are hard to make all different)
(really like this sapphire)

New oil proposal. This is almost like option 3, but slightly lighter and with a touch of green:
no3: No4:
If you want to tinker yourself, this one is the original oil in greyscale, with blue channel turned off and red values linearly mapped from [112,207] to [176,239] and green values linearly mapped from [112,207] to [160,223] (original greyscale had no values outside of the [112,207] range).

Iron: Don't like your greyscale iron, current one is much better (and imho not in need of a remake).

Fish: New fish is great.

Wool: New wool is great.

Livestock: I understand your historically accurate position, but I honestly prefer your old proposal.

Silver and Tin: Much better. And I know the metals are a real pita, they was that last time around too...

Gemstones: Not to bad...

Marble: Wonderful.

The oil is fine to me. I don't care so much for the exact colour as long as its yellow-green-brown alike.

I like the previous form of livestock too, but I don't want to use an image that isn't right, so for me the previous is off.

2. Iron. I dont get why you rejected my first proposal for iron and want to keep the older version. I agree on your point about rust. but the older one is all rust, while I looked for a verion with little rust.

(older version)
(my 1st version)
(my 2nd version)

Iron: The original iron is mostly rust, but that is OK, as rusty steel was traded (remember, this was the time before stainless steel). Your first proposal, however, is only discoloured rust, and isn't as good.
I didn't disqualify it because of the rust, but because of the very non-Iron orange colour.
Your new proposal is disqualified due to being greyscale.

P.S. I've never complained about the rust on Iron, only about the eroded bronze. The difference being that rusty Iron was traded, but eroded bronze wasn't. (All iron rusted, and you'd regain the iron in the rust when you forged whatever item you was using the iron for anyway. Bronze, however, usually did not erode, so eroded bronze was most likely of poor quality.) D.S.