Hi everyone.

Time for a new draft of CivProject 2.10. Depending on available time and what you find this might be the version used at GothCon XXXII at the 21st of Mars.

Anyway, not much have changed since last draft (which got way to little comments). The biggest thing is without question the new branding. Other than that this draft contains some minor corrections and the following changes:

* Adjusted cost of Monotheism (+10), Politics (+10), Provincial Empire (-10), and Trade Empire (-10).
* Updated Playermats (new phase list, no paragraph references).
* Updated Counters (minor clean-up, I can generate a PDF now).
* Updated Commodity cards based on Flo's work.

The following components are still work in progress, but is expected to be ready before 2.10 are finalized:

* Updated calamity cards with Flo's illustrations (WIP).
* Updated civilization cards with Flo's illustrations (done), layout (WIP), attribute texts (done?), and flavour texts (done?).

All the updated files are to be found in the Archive, but are also listed here for your convenience.
Please do check them out and tell me of any errors you find! Suggestions and opinions are also welcome.

CoreRulebook(2.10-draft2).odt
CoreRulebook(2.10-draft2).pdf
OptionalRulebook(2.10-draft2).odt
OptionalRulebook(2.10-draft2).pdf
ScenarioHandbook(2.10-draft1).odt
ScenarioHandbook(2.10-draft1).pdf
CalamityQuickChart(2.10-draft2).odt
CalamityQuickChart(2.10-draft2).pdf
AdvancesQuickChart(2.10-draft3).odt
AdvancesQuickChart(2.10-draft3).pdf
CreditCalculator(2.10-draft2).ods
CreditCalculator(2.10-draft2).xls
CreditQuickChart(2.10-draft2).pdf
Mapboard(2008-02-21-draft)-Editable.pdf
Mapboard(2008-02-21-draft)-PrintOptimized.pdf
Mapboard(2008-02-21-draft)-NoAreaNames.pdf
Playermats(2008-03-02-draft).svg.zip
Playermats(2008-03-02-draft).png.zip
Counters(2008-03-02-draft).svg.zip
Counters(2008-03-02-draft).png.zip
Counters(2008-03-02-draft)-A4.pdf
Counters(2008-03-02-draft)-Letter.pdf
Commodities(2008-03-01-draft).psd
TradeCardBack(CivProject).svg
TradeCards(2008-03-01-draft)-MarkedCards.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-01-draft)-UnmarkedCards.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-01-draft)-Marked18PlayerSet.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-01-draft)-Marked18PlayerPokerSet.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-01-draft)-Unmarked11PlayerSet.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-01-draft)-Unmarked11PlayerPokerSet.png.zip

P.S. McBeth: Before you ask, the only change to the mapboard is the new logo. If you want to include it in your svg map, please use the source svg file instead of trying to re-export it from the pdf map.

oh hey, I saw these question marks.
The flavour texts are done. I haven't been working on the advances-layout because of the discussion about monotheism, politics, fundamentalism, and wonder of the world.
Beside the right defention of the attributes-text is not finished in my opinion. I haven't spent any time on that. That's why I started working on the drawings for the calamities during the time I'm at home, and the commodities at any other place where I got some free time and the use of internet and Photoshop.

I'll ask my cousin gerart to look at the attributes again.

I'd say, for now, we don't change the advances like discussed, only in a newer version after playtesting. I'm not playtesting before april I think.

The commodity template was updated somewhat:

Commodities(2008-03-05-draft).psd
TradeCards(2008-03-05-draft)-MarkedCards.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-05-draft)-UnmarkedCards.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-05-draft)-Marked18PlayerSet.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-05-draft)-Marked18PlayerPokerSet.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-05-draft)-Unmarked11PlayerSet.png.zip
TradeCards(2008-03-05-draft)-Unmarked11PlayerPokerSet.png.zip

cool thanks. I'll get that folded in.

The core rulebook and the quick charts has undergone some textual revisions.

The only rule change is the removed maximum of five unit points lost by Tribal Conflict. Depopulation two areas from tokens is still pretty lame, as you get to choose which two yourself.

CoreRulebook(2.10-draft3).odt
CoreRulebook(2.10-draft3).pdf
CalamityQuickChart(2.10-draft3).odt
CalamityQuickChart(2.10-draft3).pdf
AdvancesQuickChart(2.10-draft5).odt
AdvancesQuickChart(2.10-draft5).pdf

I this is the latest version of the rules,

I have some comment on 'attacking'.

In the attributes-text topic we discussed removing 'enemy' in 'attacking an enemy city', it's still in the rules.

Besided I couldn't find a proper definition of 'attacking'
in the case of cultural ascendancy.

Maybe I didn't look well enough, but I think It should be described somewhere in the rules, maybe with a marking in 'cultural ascendancy'.

and how about 'diplomacy'

I just havn't re-published the rules since. In 2.10-draft4 (not yet finished), the word "enemy" is only used three times, in relation to path tracing (25.2.2 and 25.8.2) and Roadbuilding (30.43.2).


Then you looked at the wrong place. It's part of paragraph 17 (Movement):


Please note that §30 (Civilization Cards) only contains "Short summaries of all attributes of the cards" (same as the quick chart), while "Details of how these attributes work are found in The Phases (IV) and Calamities (29)." (quotes from §30.1).
However, each attribute summary in §30 does have a paragraph reference to the normative section in The Phases (§13-§28) or Calamities (§29), which is why the Cultural Ascendancy paragraph reads "30.11.2 Players may not attack a holder's units without holding either Cultural Ascendancy or Advanced Military (17.4.2).", and you can read the details in 17.4.2.

ok clear!

I will have some time available in the next few weeks and after reading through the 2.09 rules I'd like to review the 2.10 rules and suggest some corrections and modifications.