I never really payed attention to the eastern part of the map conceirning Volcanos

Now I realize the East part doesn't have any volcanos at all.

The only three volcanos on our map are Vesuvius, Etna and Thera.

Has there never been a volcanic eruption between 8000BC and 500BC on the other parts of our map and shouldn't it be added to be at least divided more equally?

Isn't it strange using the calamity 'Volcanic eruption' in our game with only 3 volcanos divided over two civilizations?

Yes it is. I think we had a thread way back when asking for people to find historical eruptions - but no one could find any.

I'd be VERY open to adding more ancient volcanos if anyone knows of any... Even modern day eruptions could be included.

I've been looking for 5 minutes but couldnt find any either, and now I've asked a volcano-specialist to help me out.

Any large volcano in that region may have erupted between 8000BC and 500 BC

I don't think you have to limit it to just that time frame actually. I think it's reasonable to to say a more modernday eruption could have occured in the past. The civilization just got lucky and never drew the calamity!

That is exactly what I mean:


In my opinion, though, as we have 3 volcanos on the west map, we should have exactly 3 volcanos on the east side as well.

ANYONE?

There are a lot:

http://www.scinexx.de/redaktion/lernwel ... p_m1_h.pdf

Maybe I will find out some names and locations afterward...

thanks

I'd suggest to use these three in addition to the three on the west part:




Could you check if these are reasonable options?

I think the far east one, should be replaced by one more likely to be in the
middle of the eastern map, as the three in the western map are also more
central. I will see what I can do...

Well, you cannot change history or geographic. So the fact that vesuvius, etna and thera were important volcanos and are close to eachother cannot be changed.

the same goes for all important flood plains.

Though dividing the volcanos and flood plains more evenly over the map does create a better balance in the game.

We cannot change the west three. That would be ridicule.

But we can choose for the east part

Since we have to choose for any three volcanos, because there wasn't any famous eruption in that period in the east region, we can take our right to pick three that are more distant from eachother.

Otherwise for example Saba would suddenly get two or three volcanos.

Still I am thinking that central vulcanos are more included in the game than
a vulcano at the far east end of the map with maybe only one civilization
near to it.

you mean:

There are more cases you play with less than 18 players, than exactly 18 players.

Therefore the first civilizations to be out of play are at the edge of the map.

Therefore the chance that all volcanos are in play grows less if you place volcanos at the far end of the east part.


Well, that makes sense.
Though, right now, there aren't volcanos at the east part anyway.

playing at the edge of the map gives certain advantages. you have less neighbours, so you get less attention in secondary calamity effects as well as less attacks.

A volcano could compensate this a little.

It would be the same like having the Celts with one vulcano
at the end of the map (Caledonia). Usually nobody will go
there, especially if there is a Vulcano.

The three vulcano sites in the Mediterrenean Area are much
more interesting and usually more included "in play" than
the map ending areas (with more players around).

Nevertheless, I will try to find some vulcano sites for all
civs in the eastern part, and then we can decide about
choosing which ones.

That's great anyway. don't get me wrong.




Except that now we're talking about the starting location for Dravidia, which is an area a player WILL GO (as long as it is in play).


Is there anyone else on the forum having an opinion on this.

No problems with that, I am loving discussions if there
will be anyhow a fruitful ending/decision of it.

Why don't we see what options we can find out and then pick from those?