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Regarding Province's names in Hispania
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Author:  pepo [ 2005-11-26 10:52:05 ]
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First of all, I will like to congratulate you for the outstanding job you guys have done developing the Project. The outcome is superb and I believe that it has taken you thousands of hours of hard work and testing. For a Civ fan, as I consider myself, it is a great challenge to sit down as face the redesigned game you have created.

I have had a fast look to the cards, map, rules book and the other stuff, and one thing has ringed some bells in my mind. Checking the provinces allocated in Hispania, I have come to the conclusion that some are either misplaced or not properly named, if we want to name then as they were during the Roman domination. I know that this is a small issue that not affect the functionality of the game, and may annoy more than please you, but when I first show the map it was so clear to me that I though it was a must for me to report it.

From what I remember from college and according to some research I have done, I will suggest the following changes to be done:

1- Celtici should be named Lusitania (For being the name of the main roman province located in the current Portugal)
2- Lusitania changed to Gallaecia (For being the ancient name of the current Galicia province, after its roman name “Gallaecia” and for being located there)
3- Gallaecia could be named as Cluniensis (roman province approximately located there)
4- Corduba should be change to Baetica (because the Baetica was just where Corduba is placed on the map)
5- Baetica could be well named as Emeritensis (roman province approximately located there)
6- Hispania should be named Tarraconense (because Hispania was the name given to the whole peninsula and not a name attached to a province, while Tarraconense was the name of the main roman province). Please, mind the difference between Tarraconensis and Tarraconense.
7- Tarraconensis could be changed to Caesar Augusta (for History consistency and because contains the current city of Caesar Augusta, nowadays “Zaragoza”)
8- Narbo may be changed either to Tarraconensis (for matching the roman province of this name and containing the actual city of Tarragona, after the roman “Tarraco”, capital of the Tarraconensis province) or to Narbonensis for the same reason.
9- New Carthage may be changed to Cartaginensis for consistency.
10- Iberus is fine for being the starting point and located next to the Iberus' river mouth (the river which gives the name to the peninsula)

For you convenience, I send you some link in which you can double check the information provided and get some extra information.

If you have any question, please do not hesitate to contacting me on this forum or by MSM.

Hope I was of some help and congratulations again for the big job you have done in this project

Kind regards
Jose Luis Vazquez (pepo)

http://www.celtiberia.net/imagftp/im100 ... ducida.jpg
From http://www.celtiberia.net/ Iberian History website

http://www.imperium-romanum.info/tabula ... p?a=g&p=28
From http://www.imperium-romanum.info Roman Empire general website

http://www.nku.edu/~landwehr/romanspain.jpg
From http://www.nku.edu/ Northern Kentucky University

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Author:  Jonno [ 2006-01-17 9:25:41 ]
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After some lengthy discussions by email and a history lesson for all of us, we reached a conclusion:

Celtici -> Lusitania
Lustiania -> Gallaecia
Gallaecia -> Cluniensis
Corduba [No Change]
Baetica -> Emeritensis
Hispania-> Cartaginensis
Tarraconensis -> Caesaraugustanus
Narbo [No Change]
New Carthage -> Carthago Nova
Iberus [No Change]

Martin has created an updated map, which can be found at:
http://jon.severinsson.net/civproject/m ... -draft.pdf

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